What is gap bed lathe and Why Do We Use Them?

06, May. 2024

 

What are members thoughts on Gap Bed lathes

My Engineers ToolRoom BL12 – 24 is a lookalike of the Chester Craftsman (and the late Warco BH600 )

What are members thoughts on Gap Bed lathes

My Engineers ToolRoom BL12 – 24 is a lookalike of the Chester Craftsman (and the late Warco BH600 )

In the 16 years of ownership, have never needed to remove the gap. But have never had any concerns about rigidity when taking cuts of upto 0.150" deep, or with smaller intermittent cuts. The motor is a 1.5 hp, 3 phase , powered by a VFD.

The Craftsman is a heavy machine, weighing 390 Kg,

I have used it with a Vertical Slide, to flycut the ends of 3" x 1" steel bar, without problems.

When I had a Myford ML7, I did need to use the gap facility of from time to time, but found it not to be quite rigid enough for my needs, especially when using a Rodney milling attachment.

The BL12-24 bolts down using six 1/2" or 12mm fixings, where the ML7 uses four 5/16 or 8mm.

My lathe actually sits on six 1/2 UNF setscrews, with a nut above and below each lathe foot, which are secured to angle irons resting on the beams of ex warehouse staging, rather than the cabinet which comes with the lathe.

The ML7 was bolted to the steel bench.

Hence, I consider it to be much more rigid than the ML7.

In this case there should be no concerns over the bed flexing.

The gap is a useful feature, should you ever need to swing anything larger than 12", or 300mm.

Someone checked his BH600 before and after, having removed and refitted the gap piece. No misalignment was reported in the "refitted" condition, so the alignment seems to give no problems.

The Craftsman should be a versatile machine, given the Norton gearbox and PCF..

Howard

lathe gap bed usage

Kap:

It's the other way around, the cross slide is more stable on the gap bed saddle. That's the other one of the reasons they are made that way.

The gap bed lathegap bed lathe is a compromise at best. I don't know anyone who has been overjoyed with one after he has taken the gap piece out and tried to get it back in.

Look at the lathe's bed. The best models have the head stock leg right under the gap portion. The Makzk's and their Korean counter parts are like that. This keeps any deflection in the bed to a minimum.

The only good sliding bed gap LeBlonds were the NE series and larger. They were solid and didn't fade from a large diameter cut.

The gap bed Regals and the sliding bed gap Regals are trash. The bed is too narrow, the saddle isn't very strong and the head stock is too puny to stand the reaction of a large diameter cut.

What I do know about Standard-Modern is that they are not brutes of lathes. You might find them a bit over extended when applied to gap work.

In the 16 years of ownership, have never needed to remove the gap. But have never had any concerns about rigidity when taking cuts of upto 0.150" deep, or with smaller intermittent cuts. The motor is a 1.5 hp, 3 phase , powered by a VFD.

The Craftsman is a heavy machine, weighing 390 Kg,

I have used it with a Vertical Slide, to flycut the ends of 3" x 1" steel bar, without problems.

When I had a Myford ML7, I did need to use the gap facility of from time to time, but found it not to be quite rigid enough for my needs, especially when using a Rodney milling attachment.

The BL12-24 bolts down using six 1/2" or 12mm fixings, where the ML7 uses four 5/16 or 8mm.

My lathe actually sits on six 1/2 UNF setscrews, with a nut above and below each lathe foot, which are secured to angle irons resting on the beams of ex warehouse staging, rather than the cabinet which comes with the lathe.

The ML7 was bolted to the steel bench.

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Hence, I consider it to be much more rigid than the ML7.

In this case there should be no concerns over the bed flexing.

The gap is a useful feature, should you ever need to swing anything larger than 12", or 300mm.

Someone checked his BH600 before and after, having removed and refitted the gap piece. No misalignment was reported in the "refitted" condition, so the alignment seems to give no problems.

The Craftsman should be a versatile machine, given the Norton gearbox and PCF..

Howard

lathe gap bed usage

Kap:

It's the other way around, the cross slide is more stable on the gap bed saddle. That's the other one of the reasons they are made that way.

The gap bed lathe is a compromise at best. I don't know anyone who has been overjoyed with one after he has taken the gap piece out and tried to get it back in.

Look at the lathe's bed. The best models have the head stock leg right under the gap portion. The Makzk's and their Korean counter parts are like that. This keeps any deflection in the bed to a minimum.

The only good sliding bed gap LeBlonds were the NE series and larger. They were solid and didn't fade from a large diameter cut.

The gap bed Regals and the sliding bed gap Regals are trash. The bed is too narrow, the saddle isn't very strong and the head stock is too puny to stand the reaction of a large diameter cut.

What I do know about Standard-Modern is that they are not brutes of lathes. You might find them a bit over extended when applied to gap work.

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